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[lively-kernel] projects page
Carlos Crosetti
2016-04-23 19:28:58 UTC
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Hi, I amlearning from the recent digest message about the existence of the
projects page, I am glad to learn that page ws constructed.

Is there any document showing the LK roadmp, whay would be the next fatures
coming?

Regards, Carlos
Dave Crossland
2016-04-23 20:02:42 UTC
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As well as the roadmap, which events are the developers planning to attend
this year? :)
Robert Krahn
2016-04-27 19:38:03 UTC
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Hi Carlos –

I think there are various projects underway in the Lively realm. I
personally can only speak for projects happening around the Lively wiki at
lively-web.org and http://email.kra.hn/c/eJxdjMsOgjAURL-m7GgKNUgXLBAfifhEY3RZvK2tFkQeKn8v4s5kMsnJyQwEQ8kIWDqIwvlufD0tz8mqjPXbmXBExw_kjtLkWET7RrqLA30pFdlizXO-TTZtImchGpCMa4MvfZ_vmaW6S84cSShLmeNTwgHA84kLMnUApEctE6i6LipEQ-ROu1x0rZr0u-5goZ_CtLEoc2H-EFtlYHq2bz8_IKrQuMm1XdzrCniGQXwAAbVFtg

We plan to focus on three areas in the next weeks and months:

1. A JavaScript module system that enhances support for live development,
development via Parts(Bins), isolation of dependencies and debugging /
reified execution. We are currently sketching out an implementation here
<http://email.kra.hn/c/eJwli8kOgjAARL-m3CClRYFDDwhq4i4ao8dCW1otiywufy9CMpnkvcww4gofMkORMFidovttm8a7eq0-9pwCHD0BmiXxtQrPnUCbC35LGZp8Twt6jA_fWCwD4MCcKm1lQ6dlbkhiYzShEwj9KaYOm7q-8CnzeOJhhATybEMT2bZVA3AA0KJPplrZJf93Dxv14vq75nXBdY96QCsvWad5Y9RkFOZjHDhQVsrqCmVWZdswmluM_wDuNUWB>.

2. A more lightweight Morphic implementation that will hopefully allow more
scalable applications. Especially in regards to the PartsBin-style
development workflow where you typically copy a lot of objects, manually
and automatically, the current system is too heavy as object graphs can
quickly grow very large. The goal is too support the creation of
simulations and games without the need for low-level optimizations.

3. Support for sketching, programming by example, a more "casual" authoring
style. Astrid Thomschke's Tick Tock demo
<http://email.kra.hn/c/eJwtjstOwzAUBb_G2cUythvURRYhpZV4EyIESz-uazdObByX0L8nQkijsxjpSKPra7MlunB129y97U6fj6p7Svfu5-pWILb7QvRGdh-x7c-GPryzxdq2hGcxidfu5dKZQ4M4GYXz-Pi3KoyFrYkBAMIrqSvOOOHcUCGNUmxDoaJyW_ja5hwRaxDdr3j3Df5SLiBxSMdVxBROoPKMbR49omy2YVlreqcGRDeU9EENRar_fwOkCfwaYqPD58mVMeRZixFr-AXiJUiF> was a first approach
towards that topic and we are interested in exploring techniques that mix
sketching, touch, programming by example, etc.

If there are any topics or use cases you or others might be interested in
we would like to hear about that as well.

Best,
Robert
Post by Carlos Crosetti
Hi, I amlearning from the recent digest message about the existence of the
projects page, I am glad to learn that page ws constructed.
Is there any document showing the LK roadmp, whay would be the next
fatures coming?
Regards, Carlos
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Carlos Crosetti
2016-04-27 20:44:18 UTC
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Thanks for the detals, I like the plan. Best regards, Carlos
Post by Robert Krahn
Hi Carlos –
I think there are various projects underway in the Lively realm. I
personally can only speak for projects happening around the Lively wiki at
lively-web.org
<http://email.kra.hn/c/eJw9jbsOgjAAAL-mbJBCC5ShA4Ka-BaN0bEtBWqKYEGRv5c4mFxuuOVyGhYRzC1Fk3h1Su-3rch2Zq0-7pwBlD6BN-PZtU3Or8LbXNBQVYkt9-zBjtlhzIplDDCsmdJO-bNoaquiMA8IyTEnoetjCTHjJIiwFyHfD4jrQ0vTqu9bgGLgLSa0eks92oPkTmPKKViGCmZ00znCNJ3sezVt_ocvj5o4XA>
and https://github.com/LivelyKernel/LivelyKernel
<http://email.kra.hn/c/eJxdjbsOgjAYRp-m3TS1xSBDB8RLonhDY3Qs5S-tqaCl3t5edHAw-fIlZzg5BQ9VRApseBLPtqPTcSGzpZubZ28sEBtdER3m2eGS7G6Kpnv20DrpwEpUYpOtX5maxiggZ2Fst_y-rM9Y8wHrhYQFoFgBguWyL8kgkhApQWQQAMWWa-8vDWIxopN2pfH6ln_sFlJzB_uag6vA_iF2XApn66YrXd2A96bN_8pv4n5C_w>
.
1. A JavaScript module system that enhances support for live development,
development via Parts(Bins), isolation of dependencies and debugging /
reified execution. We are currently sketching out an implementation here
<http://email.kra.hn/c/eJw9jssOgjAURL-m7CRIUXTRBYKa-BaN0WXpvdiaIlqKyt-LLEwmk5zFyQywMB974CgWR4tDcrusRboxS_XpTzmhyZP4kyw9P-JjnfurE31LGfdwy-98n-6aNJ9HJPAKrrR77VqUhSPZAIIAQ-hzABHgADKOfgh8OKKQIx16jmbS2kdFaET8WZursrLOfnYLK_VC3SzR3FG3qDt0ixJqjZVjmOBGl5UrTFmhtao98N_-ArMGRHc>
.
2. A more lightweight Morphic implementation that will hopefully allow
more scalable applications. Especially in regards to the PartsBin-style
development workflow where you typically copy a lot of objects, manually
and automatically, the current system is too heavy as object graphs can
quickly grow very large. The goal is too support the creation of
simulations and games without the need for low-level optimizations.
3. Support for sketching, programming by example, a more "casual"
authoring style. Astrid Thomschke's Tick Tock demo
<http://email.kra.hn/c/eJw9zr1uwjAUhuGrcTaixIfwM3gICVQq_YE0qmC0T2xscHDquKTcPVEHpE_v8E1Pw-ZqmTSRYUX--lWej-9Yffit-UvXnED5Q-hKVIeuqH8VffuGQetiIj_5le-r3b1SLzmZJi03Nj79F10bacapwLQBgPlsiQgoF5mYZVSlwBUIvogs0yF0BHJCN-OsuUl7nwxSxM6fxqPz7iwx9LEOrSUUeu2GUVMbvBCa0aR2eIk8Q-6t62P0rpchmJHyVDwA7bNGAg> was
a first approach towards that topic and we are interested in exploring
techniques that mix sketching, touch, programming by example, etc.
If there are any topics or use cases you or others might be interested in
we would like to hear about that as well.
Best,
Robert
On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Crosetti <
Post by Carlos Crosetti
Hi, I amlearning from the recent digest message about the existence of
the projects page, I am glad to learn that page ws constructed.
Is there any document showing the LK roadmp, whay would be the next
fatures coming?
Regards, Carlos
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