[lively-kernel] Future of Lively?

Discussion:

Dave Crossland

2016-04-18 17:10:47 UTC

Hi

This project seems to have halted.

Why did that happen?

Where did the Lively developers move on to?

What, if any, is the future of Lively?

--
Cheers
Dave

Daniel Ingalls

2016-04-18 18:52:23 UTC

Permalink

Hi Dave -

No halted at all; just “morphed” into Lively-Web.org (mostly San Francisco crew, esp Robert on CC), and mostly maintained on GIT.

Lively is very much in motion still with lots planned for the summer, and there is another “Lively4” project (mostly Potsdam crew, esp Jens on CC) working on a tighter integration with, e.g., DOM and HTML.

Feel free to inquire more, once you have gotten oriented.

- Dan
—————

Andy Burnett

2016-04-18 19:03:23 UTC

Permalink

I am delighted to hear this. I was checking the commit log yesterday, trying to work out if it was dead. And I was going to mail the list to ask exactly the same question.

Right, time to set up a new server, and start playing.

Cheers
Andy

Post by Daniel Ingalls
Hi Dave -
No halted at all; just âmorphedâ into Lively-Web.org (mostly San Francisco crew, esp Robert on CC), and mostly maintained on GIT.
Lively is very much in motion still with lots planned for the summer, and there is another âLively4â project (mostly Potsdam crew, esp Jens on CC) working on a tighter integration with, e.g., DOM and HTML.
Feel free to inquire more, once you have gotten oriented.
- Dan
âââââ

_______________________________________________
lively-kernel mailing list
http://lists.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/listinfo/lively-kernel

Dave Crossland

2016-04-18 19:21:13 UTC

Permalink

Hi Dan!

Wow, thanks for the super fast response! This is great to hear :)

Are any lively folks in NYC, where I am? :)

If not, please do keep me in mind if you pass through :)

Post by Daniel Ingalls
Hi Dave -
No halted at all; just âmorphedâ into Lively-Web.org (mostly San
Francisco crew, esp Robert on CC), and mostly maintained on GIT.
Lively is very much in motion still with lots planned for the summer, and
there is another âLively4â project (mostly Potsdam crew, esp Jens on CC)
working on a tighter integration with, e.g., DOM and HTML.
Feel free to inquire more, once you have gotten oriented.
- Dan
âââââ

--
Cheers
Dave

Davide Della Casa

2016-04-18 19:29:55 UTC

Permalink

Iâm going to be brazen and ask whether you have a SAP/CDG research roadmap that you could share?

And whether as part of such roadmap you would consider having people to work on Jens Monigâs morphic.js?

I worked on a port + extensive rewrite + several new features to morphic.js and I find it a delightful, promising gem.

Now I understand that there are already many browser-based lively systems around (for some broad definition of lively systems) but still, I ask just in case ;-)

(there are several reasons why morphic.js would be worthwhile, I donât elaborate here, plus Jens probably already made his case, but I can elaborate on request...)

Cheers,
Davide Della Casa
http://www.davidedc.com/ <http://www.davidedc.com/>
https://github.com/davidedc/ <https://github.com/davidedc/>

Robert Krahn

2016-04-20 00:31:41 UTC

Permalink

Hi Dave –

To see some of the projects from the last two years visit
http://email.kra.hn/c/eJwtjT0PgjAYhH8NbDSF8tEOHRRkMA4YBz-2Ci-l2FLEqvHf2xjvLs9wueQ6XvQMd6Hi5Wp7qMZzk0dy8yxI-ZbQHNcXkUlzb2JxJw6nNFaX9lTt674k590-SLERSiP5Y2tNOHCgOMcxw3mSMMEoSSGjcGXeKXgVoeaDc3NAVkFS-2j1Av2J3nBFdpG-mBc7QuseaHBGhwv_D26wTKD94zAr9JxUNFv36IRBHXwBXII_UQ

As Dan said, Lively development is still lively, we are actively
engaged using and evolving our wiki at
http://email.kra.hn/c/eJwtjbsOgjAAAL-GbhBKKa1DBwQZjAPEQWFraSnV8hQk_r3EmFxuuOUkI83Bl8CwJD5f00eZR64-rQQlm1b57VhxrLsph3xCix9SaKr6nhZZk6DyUjih33FjPf1zPXSgZRhzSKjEIeQYNlwIKiOBg4A2BNcBIsCydllGB8VOkO1Y81b2425KeMOswcz-4anmXtn90I7GW3vjjsPykrzzpPoCmSQ5UQ

We are also planning on doing future projects in the areas of live
programming, PartsBin-based development and end-user programming.

Best,
Robert

Post by Dave Crossland
Hi
This project seems to have halted.
Why did that happen?
Where did the Lively developers move on to?
What, if any, is the future of Lively?
--
Cheers
Dave
_______________________________________________
lively-kernel mailing list
http://email.kra.hn/c/eJxljr0OgjAAhJ8GNkihrdChA4IMxgHioLAVWkq1_BeNb68hLsbkcrkvl0uO06AhgNuKxtHxnNyKbOfIwxrA-ClFdtmXDMtuyjw2QQNQ6KmyviZ52sSwOOUWAh1T2pWb10Nnt7QigGDgE8gJrDiqPMQhBh5iIcciqH1b09aY0YKR5acfabWYxW1H5a69csbBLJx1LhffSvXNsMWH0C_nLuZeaHumP_y58b9_A8kDRr8

Dave Crossland

2016-04-20 21:36:40 UTC

Permalink

Hi Robert!

Thanks for these - great stuff :) I'll follow up when I have more
substantial questions, but the emphasis on live-coding is really awesome.

Hi Dave â
To see some of the projects from the last two years visit
http://email.kra.hn/c/eJwdjbsOgyAAAL9GNo2ICA4MVuvQdNB0aO2GgoiB-CjV9O9rm1xuuOUEI30aCqBZnl1uxdhUia_Ob4LyXcnqfnpyrOxSQb4gF8YU6mf3KOqyz1Fzrb04tFybQP3dTRYMDFIJO5xKgjklSYy4SGkrepLiiPYQC2DY4NzsocyLygOjN2k-_i7bYFrVEeZ1GmXnXsHgrAErE3yTx8jwNvktvu5sN7E
As Dan said, Lively development is still lively, we are actively
engaged using and evolving our wiki at
http://email.kra.hn/c/eJwdzLsOgjAAQNGvoRukD2jp0AFBBuMAcVDYSltKTQlCEOLfiyY3dzxasJ5DDZzIs8uteDYVDe35zUi-W1PdT61M7DhXSM5khXGKXKseRV32OWmudRDDUTof2f_VNIJBaK4l01RDmKaM6wRBhCXHSiKUKNxR4MWwrq-AZAEuj7zbjP-Eu-miabFgEVpu5oC97OiP_AKRDTGg
We are also planning on doing future projects in the areas of live
programming, PartsBin-based development and end-user programming.
Best,
Robert

http://email.kra.hn/c/eJwtjbsOgjAARb8GNkhbCoWhA4IMxgHioLhV2kK1vAvGvxeJycnNSe5wOCUyAtxWNIlPl_RZ5oFTHxfiJe9a5NfDnfl1O-aQjZ4BOITqXt3SIpOJV54LC4OWKe3W-1Z9azdUAiJDAQTBFYKAMOwjhCMYQMmAj4i0NW2MGSwvtlC2odVsZrcZlLt0yhl6M3PWulz8L9XJftdV6I_zElMntD1Rzlax1TV7BL_uF7RSPuY

--
Cheers
Dave

Andy Burnett

2016-04-22 16:10:14 UTC

Permalink

Wow!
The projects page is great. But, I couldn't find an obvious link to it via
the LK front page. Are there other cool pages on the site that also don't
have direct links?

Cheers
Andy

Post by Dave Crossland
Hi Robert!
Thanks for these - great stuff :) I'll follow up when I have more
substantial questions, but the emphasis on live-coding is really awesome.

--
Cheers
Dave
_______________________________________________
lively-kernel mailing list
http://lists.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/listinfo/lively-kernel

Dave Crossland

2016-04-22 20:52:47 UTC

Permalink

I couldn't find an obvious link to it via the LK front page.

https://github.com/LivelyKernel/lively-web.org/issues/2 :)

Are there other cool pages on the site that also don't have direct links?

I'm also curious about this!! :D